Pirates Adventure Rumour

What you got to remember from the entrance to the loading platform is nearly all intact. Not sure how bad the walls are as the signage that was sold at the auction was fitted to the walls by strong glue and it took them ages to remove.
The pirate adventure cost the park 3 million back in 1990 but as it was drained the lift hill, drop and the channels could be fine so may only need new motors for the chains and new pumps as they were on there last legs back in 2014/15 so really just the inside and outside of the building will just need theming and if the looping group can give a budget of 5-7 million for the ride and area it will complete the park.

You make it sound like there isn't much to do, the majority of the cathedral like space was the main ride area, so filling that with theming is a huge undertaking and task in itself.

The queue is intact, but it was run down and dated looking when the ride closed, now it's been sat there for another decade. That will also need significant work. Especially if the ride takes on a new art style, which is highly likely, as the old art style of the ride, from 35 years ago, is very, very dated and completely out of touch for modern audiences in 2025. This is why it's important to put a new spin on the attraction and not just bring the past back. It's such a large and expensive undertaking, you need something for the modern taste of guests. You can still do that while being sympathetic to the past, however.

I hope they take their time too. Not sure what company has the capability and capacity to take on such a large project in this day and age though. All the large teeming companies in the UK capable of such a project closed many years ago. You only have Merlin magic making with the capacity in the UK, it certainly won't be them doing the work. So it will be interesting to see what they do there as there is no one in the UK equipped for such a large project right now, who can do it properly. This is why I fear we may see screens and lots of them.

This could be why all their scenery and theming since Loopings took over, has mainly consisted of quite alot of painted wood across all the themes they have build since taking over, because there is not one dedicated in the UK to build the types of themed attractions we saw and saw on the scale of days gone by.
 
You make it sound like there isn't much to do, the majority of the cathedral like space was the main ride area, so filling that with theming is a huge undertaking and task in itself.

The queue is intact, but it was run down and dated looking when the ride closed, now it's been sat there for another decade. That will also need significant work. Especially if the ride takes on a new art style, which is highly likely, as the old art style of the ride, from 35 years ago, is very, very dated and completely out of touch for modern audiences in 2025. This is why it's important to put a new spin on the attraction and not just bring the past back. It's such a large and expensive undertaking, you need something for the modern taste of guests. You can still do that while being sympathetic to the past, however.

I hope they take their time too. Not sure what company has the capability and capacity to take on such a large project in this day and age though. All the large teeming companies in the UK capable of such a project closed many years ago. You only have Merlin magic making with the capacity in the UK, it certainly won't be them doing the work. So it will be interesting to see what they do there as there is no one in the UK equipped for such a large project right now, who can do it properly. This is why I fear we may see screens and lots of them.

This could be why all their scenery and theming since Loopings took over, has mainly consisted of quite alot of painted wood across all the themes they have build since taking over, because there is not one dedicated in the UK to build the types of themed attractions we saw and saw on the scale of days gone by.
It will take at least a year to fix up and get safe if they start now and continue over off season and open in May that's quite a long time
 
I imagine there will be some kind if screens and practical sets. As it will be a big investment so they will want to be able to update it as well. Which is easier with screens.

I imagine they might want to in an ideal world make it interactive
 
I imagine there will be some kind if screens and practical sets. As it will be a big investment so they will want to be able to update it as well. Which is easier with screens.

I imagine they might want to in an ideal world make it interactive
I just hope it reopens its a really large ride and can be seen from pretty much everywhere in the park especially on the lakeside setting
 
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It will take at least a year to fix up and get safe if they start now and continue over off season and open in May that's quite a long time
It would take much longer than that to do a ride like Pirate Adventure, to anything even slightly near its original standard. Even if it didn't meet the development criteria of the 1990 town and country planning act, it's the sheer scale of work that would be needed. The UK imports virtually all materials for construction these days, no longer produces primary steel, and we've now got to face up to global tariffs that are going to disrupt the supply chain market for virtually everything in terms of goods. All of the PVC, resin, polymer, plaster and clay markets which attraction designers would use for a ride like Pirate Adventure are all experiencing hiking costs.

Plus virtually everything we do construction wise seems to take a million years to complete. It's the way contracts are signed/wages are paid ,due to stupid regulations like IR35 and such.
I hope they take their time too. Not sure what company has the capability and capacity to take on such a large project in this day and age though. All the large teeming companies in the UK capable of such a project closed many years ago. You only have Merlin magic making with the capacity in the UK, it certainly won't be them doing the work. So it will be interesting to see what they do there as there is no one in the UK equipped for such a large project right now, who can do it properly. This is why I fear we may see screens and lots of them.
I'm not sure Merlin/MMM would have the capacity these days. Since the recent closure of Studios North @ AT, they are hugely damaged in their ability to fabricate big stuff directly. And even going back a number of years, most of the stuff they've done design work on recently (Curse, Nemesis) were basically big refurbishment jobs. Or at least relying on existing design frames, and fabricating new fibreglass tentacles and legs using the original designs as a reference. They did do good work on Big bob/Wickerman, but one large set piece is completely different to the kind of sets you would need to create for the 'towns' and 'villages' in Pirate Adventure, which were engineered to fit together.

However, in terms of design studios capable of working on such a large ride, a couple of studios do come to mind with the capability (at least in the scale of design and manufacture that they are capable of) to build a large dark ride, but obvously it is important to remember that the kind of project we are talking about is very unique and would have very specific demands:

Artem ltd are a large design studio, and they've worked on theme park projects in the past. They built some of the large themed props and effects for Tidal Wave (they built the oil tank, its respective original fire effect inside it, the church in the water etc). They would certainly be capable on the engineering and special effects side of things when it comes to building large scale props, and they do some pretty high end animatronics using servo and stepper motors too, so I would doubt that solenoid driven pneumatic figures would be an issue for them, servo assisted or otherwise. They built the large 'Ozzy' the bull for the 2022 commonwealth games, originally mounted on a large drivable telehandler, and now sitting in Birmingham New street, which is one of the most impressive animatronics I have seen in a long time, with an awesome steampunk design. They regularly work with effects systems that use huge amounts of stored energy. They would also know how to use PID closed loop systems to programme real-time animated shows (Golding leisure design used to manufacture controllers and PID systems for closing servo loops, and recording/storing the timed solenoid energisation patterns as data, back when they built Pirate Adventure, which was handy considering the actuations and cylinder specs were similar across most of the figures in the ride). Artem would have all the respective hardware needed for that kind of programming tech too, and they'd know how to work with PLCs for large scale effects systems too. I think Artem would have the capability of working on a dark ride of that scale.

Sarner international (who did a large amount of work on Valhalla back in the day, alongisde the former Farmer studios and Technifex) are also a fairly large design studio. They are also quite well equipped for large scale lighting and show control jobs too. Sarner have a lot of attraction industry experience in general, but looking at their 2025 portfolio they don't seem to lean as much in to mechanical special effects. They would be great on designing themed indoor set pieces built with the consideration of large physical stresses, accessability etc. and because they do both conceptual work, and technical drawings, that would save the need to do more outsourcing. They would probably be good on the scenic art side using the Peter Evans studio set pieces that Pirate Adventure originally had too. But they'd need to work with another company for the animatronic side of things, especially given the number of figures needed for a ride like Pirate Adventure. Meticulous have the immense talent and capability for large scale dark ride design work, too, and they regularly work with animatronics, audio and lighting.

The issue for something like Pirate Adventure is going to be operational costs as much as capital expenditure . You would need someone project managing and directing with exellent team building skills, who knows how to use the appropriate number of workers within a realistic Looping group budget. Plus the costs of ensuring everything is done to the much higher building/fire/ H&S standards we have now, compared to decades ago. To be honest the park really need to practice working with their existing ride effects, and getting as much of them working again as possible, or adding new animated effects to their attractions, before jumping in to a huge effects driven project.
I hope Elise is right and they take their time and get it right without screens.
Yeah most screens and projections are very low effort and people know it.
You could do the ride to a much poorer standard, without high quality show control, but I strongly suspect people would notice. And if word spread that it was a poor imitation of a previous ride, IRL or on social media, then I don't think that would look as good for the park.
 
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You make it sound like there isn't much to do, the majority of the cathedral like space was the main ride area, so filling that with theming is a huge undertaking and task in itself.

The queue is intact, but it was run down and dated looking when the ride closed, now it's been sat there for another decade. That will also need significant work. Especially if the ride takes on a new art style, which is highly likely, as the old art style of the ride, from 35 years ago, is very, very dated and completely out of touch for modern audiences in 2025. This is why it's important to put a new spin on the attraction and not just bring the past back. It's such a large and expensive undertaking, you need something for the modern taste of guests. You can still do that while being sympathetic to the past, however.

I hope they take their time too. Not sure what company has the capability and capacity to take on such a large project in this day and age though. All the large teeming companies in the UK capable of such a project closed many years ago. You only have Merlin magic making with the capacity in the UK, it certainly won't be them doing the work. So it will be interesting to see what they do there as there is no one in the UK equipped for such a large project right now, who can do it properly. This is why I fear we may see screens and lots of them.

This could be why all their scenery and theming since Loopings took over, has mainly consisted of quite alot of painted wood across all the themes they have build since taking over, because there is not one dedicated in the UK to build the types of themed attractions we saw and saw on the scale of days gone by.
I know there’s still a lot of work to do with the attraction but for all we know everything now could be now stripped back to a shell of a building and if just testing the ride system is taking place. I think it maybe use a mixer of screens, projectors and sets.
We could have a deal signed with Simworx’s
 
In all reality do we think Pirates Adventure is actually coming back in a new form they did with Splash Canyon. But has there been photographic evidence that work is taking place or boats been sent to Mack
 
They are basing this off the fact that they are using it for storage? It hasn’t changed since 2020, I think that’s a very far fetched claim. If it opens next year I’ll give everyone on the forum £100 and a pack of wotsits.
I do think however its the next area of the park to focus on since it is the part of the park that needs redevelopment. Being right near the front entrance not a great look to have an SBNO Attraction.
 
I think we have to look at the nearest comparison to Pirate adventure being Valhalla at Blackpool. This closed at the end of 2019 and reopened in April 2023 (or May if you don't count technical rehearsals). The ride before anyone says is completely different, but it is a major water ride. Covid slowed the progress down and time was taken on the refurbishment. I've never been on it and not generally a big fan of Blackpool (park or the resort).

It really depends on what has been done so far as to when or if it reopens. There will have been various stages of this including an exploratory element to see if it can be salvaged, look at whether there is demand for a water ride like this or has it had its day. Clearly there is demand for the ride to return. The fact that a lot of the props have been sold suggests that it won't re-open in its original form but maybe a renewed or alternative version of the ride.

Looking at what I have seen, I think there would need to be doing a lot of work now to repejn for 2026 but given timeline of previous investments, this could mean a later 2026 or 2027 opening in two phases, with a new look pirate cove (or the name it is given) including Bounty, Jolly bucaneer, and dodgems. I hope they rename dodgems as dodgems ahoy is very cheesy.

The biggest mistake they could make is to re-open early and not put the effort into the theming. I doubt this would be the case.

The manor is one of two parks I have seen in this country to put a lot of effort into theming, the other being Paulton's.
 
I think we have to look at the nearest comparison to Pirate adventure being Valhalla at Blackpool. This closed at the end of 2019 and reopened in April 2023 (or May if you don't count technical rehearsals). The ride before anyone says is completely different, but it is a major water ride. Covid slowed the progress down and time was taken on the refurbishment. I've never been on it and not generally a big fan of Blackpool (park or the resort).

It really depends on what has been done so far as to when or if it reopens. There will have been various stages of this including an exploratory element to see if it can be salvaged, look at whether there is demand for a water ride like this or has it had its day. Clearly there is demand for the ride to return. The fact that a lot of the props have been sold suggests that it won't re-open in its original form but maybe a renewed or alternative version of the ride.

Looking at what I have seen, I think there would need to be doing a lot of work now to repejn for 2026 but given timeline of previous investments, this could mean a later 2026 or 2027 opening in two phases, with a new look pirate cove (or the name it is given) including Bounty, Jolly bucaneer, and dodgems. I hope they rename dodgems as dodgems ahoy is very cheesy.

The biggest mistake they could make is to re-open early and not put the effort into the theming. I doubt this would be the case.

The manor is one of two parks I have seen in this country to put a lot of effort into theming, the other being Paulton's.
I would say a closer comparison would be River Caves then Valhalla which has equally been down last year but who knows what's going on
 
The main thing about the ride is that they can work on it and unless your got a Drome but Shawn TPWW told me that he can’t say what’s going on in the building but he said he hopes to do a update in the summer after Victoria Lynn starts up teaser updates. For Gold Rush theses started in August 2023.
 
Are you stuck in 2024 Chap?
Haz sorry for any confusion. I meant to type 2026. I truly believe that Pirate Adventure is being worked on in preparation for opening next year. Apparently there’s going to be an exciting announcement later this year. This combined with the many rumours and sighte work leads me to conclude Pirate Adventure is returning in 2026.
 
Haz sorry for any confusion. I meant to type 2026. I truly believe that Pirate Adventure is being worked on in preparation for opening next year. Apparently there’s going to be an exciting announcement later this year. This combined with the many rumours and sighte work leads me to conclude Pirate Adventure is returning in 2026.
Could this be the big announcement next weekend I think it is, or is that more of an event?
 
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